Doin' my part

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I've been using a powermeter on my bicycle for almost 7 years now. Before that I used a computrainer and the racermate software to track power in workouts. (OK, not really power, because computrainers back then really had no business reporting power output. They could electronically increase and decrease the load, but quantifying that load was anything but accurate.) Anyway, my point is we've come a long way in those 7 years and it's been a great ride so far.

And we still have a good long way to go. We still don't have a great solution to the problem of determining future performance - tomorrow, next week, at the end of the next training cycle - by looking at what we've done in the past.

Some say it's not possible, that the realities of everyday life and training and physiology make the problem too complicated. I'm not ready to believe that. Not yet. Not while we really don't yet have good tools to analyze previous performance.

I've used my SRM's software, Cyclingpeaks WKO, and GoldenCheetah side-by-side-by-side over many seasons. Three apps? Yes, because no one of them does everything I need. One of them, GoldenCheetah, is adding features fast. It may not be long before this one steamrolls the others.

GoldenCheetah, GC, is open source. Anyone can contribute. Contribution has many meanings. In this case it means the GC project accepts new features, bug reports, bug fixes, and feature suggestions from anyone. I can contribute suggestions and bug reports to the other guys too, but only after I pay for the software. GC is free.

Free? Really? And you get a real say in how the application works? Yes, yes, and yes.

Recently I had a problem with some SRM files which weren't importing properly. I described the problem to the development email list, sent them some of the problem files, and in a few hours they squashed that bug.

When I get that kind of service I'm eager to pay it back. That's why I took an hour of my time this morning to mock up the graphic you can see below. I had an idea for how the user interface in GC could be improved. I put my Photoshop skills to work and gave them the benefit of what I hope they'll see as a good idea.

And even if it only spawns a line of thought that leads to an even better user interface idea, at least I can say I did a little something to make a good tool into a better tool.

I'm a mac guy, and ordered a

Guest (not verified) wrote 1 year 11 weeks ago

I'm a mac guy, and ordered a powertap for X-mas. I have read the book, and am trying to figure out which SW to use. As a newb, am I better of with GC or just sucking it up for WKO? Or simply using the limited tools on training peaks if you pay? Any thoughts?

GC does everything I'd want it to do except be able to log running miles and the rtss equivalent.

(Also, raceday supposedly predicts performance).

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If I were starting out today,

Mark EWERS wrote 1 year 11 weeks ago

If I were starting out today, as you are, I'd go with GoldenCheetah

"We still don't have a great

Andrew Coggan (not verified) wrote 1 year 9 weeks ago

"We still don't have a great solution to the problem of determining future performance - tomorrow, next week, at the end of the next training cycle - by looking at what we've done in the past."

Maybe you don't, but I do.

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Now that would be very

Mark EWERS wrote 1 year 9 weeks ago

Now that would be very interesting. Can't wait to see it.

That ain't

Andrew Coggan (not verified) wrote 1 year 9 weeks ago

That ain't happenin':

http://groups.google.com/group/wattage/msg/07317f4e3b0c2e73

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Checking that link, it leads

Mark EWERS wrote 1 year 9 weeks ago

Checking that link, it leads to a message that reads:

> I've thought an about this since TSS and friends came out. I do recall
> at the time Andy placing the algorithms in the public domain and
> saying the names were reserved.

What actually transpired is that I put it *all* into the public domain
but requested that no one attempt to profit from the ideas. Perhaps
not surprisingly that altruistic approach didn't last very long, which
led me to license everything to what is now Peaksware so that I didn't
have to worry about/deal with such issues. Since the algorithms were
no longer patentable, they (quite rightfully) laid claim to the
trademarks for normalized power, etc., to protect their not-
insigificant investment (in WKO+, not me).
As a consequence of the whole experience, I've decided to stop
publically sharing my ideas (which is why y'all haven't seen anything
new from me since the Performance Manager).
Andy Coggan

So it'll never see the light of day? Sorry to hear that. I can't pretend to know what the backstory might be to all this but if it results in your not being able to bring your ideas to market I'm sorry for you and for everyone who would/could use them to gain better performance

"So it'll never see the light

Andrew Coggan (not verified) wrote 1 year 9 weeks ago

"So it'll never see the light of day?"

Not publically, no.

"I can't pretend to know what the backstory might be to all this"

I'm sure if you think about it a bit you'll understand.

"if it results in your not being able to bring your ideas to market"

I am still able - just not willing.

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Yeah, sorry. I didn't write

Mark EWERS wrote 1 year 9 weeks ago

Yeah, sorry. I didn't write what I intended there. Of course you're able to bring it to market. Duh! What I should have written was that if it causes you to be unwilling to bring your ideas to market it is a shame.

And it is a shame, both for everyone and for you. As you know I've always felt your contributions to others' success too far outweigh your return.